If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Off-topic posts, quotes of the day and anything else you just would like to vent to the world. PG-13 or below PLEASE!
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If 0-60 takes nearly 12 seconds,.........

NEW VW E-UP! GETS LARGER BATTERY, INCREASED RANGE
Volkswagen is getting ready to introduce a new version of the electric e-up! Battery size was increased significantly. It’s going from 18.7 kWh to 32.3, which returns a driving range of 260 km or about 161-miles. A 61-kW electric motor helps move the e-up! to 100 km/h in about 12-seconds, which is pretty pokey. Despite the larger battery pack, the new car is less expensive than the outgoing model. It now costs about 21,000 euros. VW says it’s able to offer that low price because of high production volumes.

https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/ ... price-5318
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you're driving an old VW Beetle that doesn't require fuel,.....

...and still isn't a tire-scorcher......

Image
VW PROVIDES EV KIT FOR CLASSIC BEETLES
And one way it’s increasing production volume is by offering the e-up! as a conversion kit for classic Beetles. The components are supplied to VW’s partner eClassics which performs the conversion. You get a Beetle that can go 0 to 80km/h in about 8-seconds, which is pretty pokey. It will travel 200 kilometers or roughly 124-miles on a charge. VW is also working on an electric conversion for the Bus and says it could do a Porsche 356.

https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/ ... eetle-5312

Funny, but if you stand behind the vehicle and open the "Hood", you won't be able to read that VW emblem on the powertrain cover.
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
IMBoring25
Moderator
Posts: 3418
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:01 pm
Location: OK, USA

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by IMBoring25 »

That 0-60 number is pretty pokey by most standards, but a wild improvement over the original drivetrain in most of them...
User avatar
potownrob
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 7833
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:35 pm
Cars: '17 CX-5 GT
Location: Dutchess County

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by potownrob »

IMBoring25 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:50 pm That 0-60 number is pretty pokey by most standards, but a wild improvement over the original drivetrain in most of them...
you done read my mind. 8 seconds isn't TOO bad for an economy car though...

edit: re-read...12 seconds is indeed pokey, even for an economy car...
ClutchFork wrote:...So I started carrying a stick of firewood with me and that became my parking brake.
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

potownrob wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:31 am
IMBoring25 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:50 pm That 0-60 number is pretty pokey by most standards, but a wild improvement over the original drivetrain in most of them...
you done read my mind. 8 seconds isn't TOO bad for an economy car though...

edit: re-read...12 seconds is indeed pokey, even for an economy car...
Go back to some historic road test data - you'd see there there has always been some vehicle that did a 6-second 0-60 (traction limited by the old bias-ply tires), but the vast majority of cars in the 1960's took over 10 seconds and something like the beetle may have been up around 18-20 seconds.

The econoboxes of the mid seventies were 10 seconds or slower.

Most of what has changed is that the slowest cars now are much faster than the slowest cars of the past.
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

"THE ABSURDITY OF SPEED: CHASING TACTILITY IN AN ERA OF UBIQUITOUS HORSEPOWER" - AutoWeek

I was sprised they din say nuttin 'bout drivin' Amish and how it's not necessarily the fastest, but it is the bestest.

https://autoweek.com/article/car-life/a ... 4-readmore
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you had no clue what you were talking about when you promised to take the electric car market by storm, you might just only be a floor and rug vacuum manufacturer.
Image

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ ... o-readmore
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If a $3,000.00 Subsidy for purchasing a new vehicle to replace your 8 year old faithful steed is what you've been waiting for, .....
Image
We did mention that your former faithful steed will be crushed, didn't we?

(If I were King, I'd find a more cost-effective method, like taking the worst-of-the-worst polluting vehicles (20% of fleet?) off the road and reducing total vehicle pollution by 80 % simply by replacing them with ANY comparable new ICE-powered vehicle.)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-auto ... SKBN1X403N
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

...driving a new VW in Canada in 2021,......

“The eGolf will be replaced by the “ID. Family” of all-electric cars based upon the MEB platform,” Tetzlaff said. “The first ID. car in Canada will be the production version of the ID. Crozz concept, which will arrive early in 2021.”

...or you may be driving the next generation Golf

Image

https://canada.autonews.com/cars-concep ... hero-image
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
User avatar
potownrob
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 7833
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:35 pm
Cars: '17 CX-5 GT
Location: Dutchess County

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by potownrob »

Rope-Pusher wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:39 pm ...driving a new VW in Canada in 2021,......

“The eGolf will be replaced by the “ID. Family” of all-electric cars based upon the MEB platform,” Tetzlaff said. “The first ID. car in Canada will be the production version of the ID. Crozz concept, which will arrive early in 2021.”

...or you may be driving the next generation Golf

Image

https://canada.autonews.com/cars-concep ... hero-image
kinda indifferent about the development of electric vehicles (will probably prefer some sort of hybrid for a long time, if not forever), but what some of these companies, including VW, are doing with their cars, both looks, feature and name wise, is annoying me greatly. ID Crozz?? REALLY?!? :? :shock: :( :evil: :|

nota bene: the new golf coming out, from the pics and spec sheets at least, looks like a big downgrade from the current golf, at least the earlier MK7 models like the '16 SE eye had.
ClutchFork wrote:...So I started carrying a stick of firewood with me and that became my parking brake.
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you had to change your road trip plans because it rained,........

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJqHa6uTzpw[/youtube]

An interesting discussion with a confirmed Gearhead who is now a Tesla owner. He discusses what life with a Tesla is like...as a multi-vehicle owner. I would sum up his comments with "I love this car, but they're not for everyone" (for a number of reasons he brings up.)
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you can't achieve 4S,........
Image
https://europe.autonews.com/blogs/good- ... 3-readmore

Oh, and you also need to convince your better half that cabin heat is an unnecessary extravagence - same goes for washing clothes.

Interesting article about BEV experience in Italy......
......and interesting comment below the article.
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you have a dead battery miles from shore, you just might be riding an electric Jet Ski.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-car ... er_Sending

If you have a dead battery out in the woods during a blizzard, you just might be riding an electric snowmobile.
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If you had to halt participation in an off-road event because you would get stuck on a mountain with no charging available,....

LORDSTOWN FAILS TO COMPLETE OFF-ROAD RACE- Autoline Daily
You can learn a whole lot about a vehicle by taking it racing and Lordstown learned it miscalculated the amount of energy it would use during the San Felipe 250. We reported about the EV startup’s plans to enter a modified version of its Endurance pickup in the off-road race, but unfortunately for the team, it only completed 40 of the 280 miles. Pre-race, Lordstown estimated a 3X energy consumption while racing off-road, but due to larger tires and driving in deep sand, the true energy usage was 4 times normal levels. So, it determined the second leg, of about 65 miles, could strand the truck in the middle of a mountain with no place to charge it. Lordstown says it looks forward to next year and we hope it does compete again. There’s a lot to learn and tweaks to be made. But this also shows why Jeep and Rivian want to install charging stations at trail heads. And it also might not be a bad idea to open a tow service near places like Moab and Rubicon Trail.

https://lordstownmotors.com/blogs/news/ ... felipe-250
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Rope-Pusher
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 11607
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:44 pm
Cars: '08 Jeep Liberty
Location: Greater Detroit Area

Re: If ..........., You Just Might Be Drivin' an Electric

Post by Rope-Pusher »

If they had to develop special diagnostic software to determine if your batteries had a defect that could cause a fire,.......
Image
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 888266001/
'08 Jeep Liberty 6-Speed MT - "Last of the Mohicans"
Post Reply