Another Day, Another Idiot Driver (Misc Thread for Stories)

[Rope-Pusher]

Pleae give me instructions for the easiest way through a roundabout, e.g. do I take a jacked up 4WD F350 with monster mudders and go straight through like as if it is a normal intersection?

Where did they get the idea for roundabouts? Aliens?

Clothes, but no (Bob) Seger.

It was from NASA...they never drop straight in on a planet or moon. They always circle around a bit first.

...or was it from Navy pilots coming in for carrier landings.....No, I guess some of them would come straight in if they could. Same goes for planes landing on runways - they don't all circle round before landing.

They say dogs circle around and align themselves on a North-South axis before dropping a load. Maybe you really don't want to drive across the island in the center of a roundabout.

[ClutchFork]

Pleae give me instructions for the easiest way through a roundabout, e.g. do I take a jacked up 4WD F350 with monster mudders and go straight through like as if it is a normal intersection?

Where did they get the idea for roundabouts? Aliens?

Clothes, but no (Bob) Seger.

It was from NASA...they never drop straight in on a planet or moon. They always circle around a bit first.

...or was it from Navy pilots coming in for carrier landings.....No, I guess some of them would come straight in if they could. Same goes for planes landing on runways - they don't all circle round before landing.

They say dogs circle around and align themselves on a North-South axis before dropping a load. Maybe you really don't want to drive across the island in the center of a roundabout.

If I pick anything up in those monster mudders, I can simply goose the pedal and fling it onto the next electric vehicle I see.

[watkins]

Pleae give me instructions for the easiest way through a roundabout, e.g. do I take a jacked up 4WD F350 with monster mudders and go straight through like as if it is a normal intersection?

Where did they get the idea for roundabouts? Aliens?

In New England we call them rotaries and I absolutely cannot fathom why people struggle so much with them. They're organized chaos with easy to follow rules.

[ClutchFork]

Pleae give me instructions for the easiest way through a roundabout, e.g. do I take a jacked up 4WD F350 with monster mudders and go straight through like as if it is a normal intersection?

Where did they get the idea for roundabouts? Aliens?

In New England we call them rotaries and I absolutely cannot fathom why people struggle so much with them. They're organized chaos with easy to follow rules.

To us old school drivers (i started driving in the 1970s) they are more like demolition derbies.

[Rope-Pusher]

Pleae give me instructions for the easiest way through a roundabout, e.g. do I take a jacked up 4WD F350 with monster mudders and go straight through like as if it is a normal intersection?

Where did they get the idea for roundabouts? Aliens?

In New England we call them rotaries and I absolutely cannot fathom why people struggle so much with them. They're organized chaos with easy to follow rules.

To us old school drivers (i started driving in the 1970s) they are more like demolition derbies.

Yeah, and those octagonal red signs that say "Stop" on em - whatcha sposta do there?


Poe-tae-toe, Pah-tah-tah

I've seen people drive into them with no idea there would be traffic coming from their left.
I've seen that guy that was just too unsure to pull in ( Car C ).
I've seen a semi pull in and occupy multiple lanes ( really need larger diameters to accommodate long vehicles )

Maybe there ought to be mandatory driver's education refresher courses when renewing one's, or two's operator's license.

The more recent "Double-Dog-Dare-Ya" intersections are also a challenge to someone who is unaware of them.


Locally, I think Michigan ought to stop vehicles at the border and inform the drivers about "Michigan Lefts"

[ClutchFork]

Stop signs are bad. They cause people to violate the law doing rolling stops. Really, lets get rid of stop signs and go by the Alaska Highway rule (bigger vehicle gets right of way). There also is the Texas lane merge where you don't put your turn signal on until you see a gap and are headed into it, else the other drivers if they see your signal will close the gap and prevent you from merging.

As for the round abouts the one you posted on the right might work better if each big green arrow were an overpass.

But that "Double-Dog-Dare-Ya" is like a game of chicken. We have something like that here if you are getting off I-94 to Telegraph road and making a left the turn is like wrong side of the road, the oncoming cars are whizzing by on your right instead of your left, totally disorienting. I think Beck Road over I-96 is similar or was it Wixom Road, somewhere out there.

They should get the peoples permission before they can put these bassakward logic intersections in any neighborhood.

Here is one way not to negotiate a round about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTk_kPeA63c

I think these roundabout and other crazy intersections are being installed to get people so frustrated they will finally accept autonomous cars just go stop having to deal with the interesections.

[Rope-Pusher]

Stop signs are bad. They cause people to violate the law doing rolling stops. Really, lets get rid of stop signs and go by the Alaska Highway rule (bigger vehicle gets right of way). There also is the Texas lane merge where you don't put your turn signal on until you see a gap and are headed into it, else the other drivers if they see your signal will close the gap and prevent you from merging.

As for the round abouts the one you posted on the right might work better if each big green arrow were an overpass.

But that "Double-Dog-Dare-Ya" is like a game of chicken. We have something like that here if you are getting off I-94 to Telegraph road and making a left the turn is like wrong side of the road, the oncoming cars are whizzing by on your right instead of your left, totally disorienting. I think Beck Road over I-96 is similar or was it Wixom Road, somewhere out there.

They should get the peoples permission before they can put these bassakward logic intersections in any neighborhood.

Here is one way not to negotiate a round about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTk_kPeA63c

I think these roundabout and other crazy intersections are being installed to get people so frustrated they will finally accept autonomous cars just go stop having to deal with the interesections.

The first Double-Dog-Dare-Ya I was aware of was going to be built where University Drive crosses over I-75 in Auburn Hills.
After reading an article in a newspaper, I googled to find out more about it. Would you imagine that there would be a Double-Dog-Dare-Ya at University Drive andI-75....in Florida? Anyway, that one spans over the freeway, so it's a bit better to picture as you drive up to it. To me, the ones that pass under the freeway, like at 14 Mile Road, Big Beaver Road and as planned for 12 Mile Road, are shrouded by the roadway and not as easy to see what's coming up ahead. I haven't tried the pedestrian routes through these interchanges, but they look safer than trying to walk through a Roundabout.

Yanno, they are a lot like Roundabouts in that they seek to eliminate head-on and T-bone crashes, but there can be a trade-off to more side-swipe crashes. I've heard they almost eliminate deaths, ( Okay, except for that guy that got his pick-m-up airborne ) but there are more collision claims, at least for the Roundabouts. I haven't read any statistics on the Double-Dog-Dare-Ya interchanges.

[IMBoring25]

The DDI sure looks to me like it would invite confused drivers meeting other drivers head-on, especially when lane markings are obsucured by heavy rain, ice, or snow. On the other hand, I wasn't completely sold on the SPUI either, and I will now go slightly out of my way to use them rather than the traditional traffic-light-on-either-side-of-the-overpass style.

[potownrob]

eye believe eye came upon one of these a while back, eye forget where, but it was something else. kind of like coming upon a roundabout for the first time, it was moar-ore-less a leap of faith. how these junctions and intersections are allowed to be installed without educating the driving masses, seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

[ClutchFork]

... seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Pretty much the status quo.

[Rope-Pusher]

eye believe eye came upon one of these a while back, eye forget where, but it was something else. kind of like coming upon a roundabout for the first time, it was moar-ore-less a leap of faith. how these junctions and intersections are allowed to be installed without educating the driving masses, seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Good use of a Pubic Service Announcement.
Maybe those worked better when TV was broadcast over-the-air to a regional market.
I do remember some that were national announcements, like "All aliens need to register with the government",
or how to protect your family from "The Bomb".

[potownrob]

... seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Pretty much the status quo.

you bite your tongue mister!!

[potownrob]

eye believe eye came upon one of these a while back, eye forget where, but it was something else. kind of like coming upon a roundabout for the first time, it was moar-ore-less a leap of faith. how these junctions and intersections are allowed to be installed without educating the driving masses, seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Good use of a Pubic Service Announcement.
Maybe those worked better when TV was broadcast over-the-air to a regional market.
I do remember some that were national announcements, like "All aliens need to register with the government",
or how to protect your family from "The Bomb".

everything seems more subliminal these days.

[ClutchFork]

eye believe eye came upon one of these a while back, eye forget where, but it was something else. kind of like coming upon a roundabout for the first time, it was moar-ore-less a leap of faith. how these junctions and intersections are allowed to be installed without educating the driving masses, seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Good use of a Pubic Service Announcement.
Maybe those worked better when TV was broadcast over-the-air to a regional market.
I do remember some that were national announcements, like "All aliens need to register with the government",
or how to protect your family from "The Bomb".

So that is what those two dots are. I recall cars in the 1960s had those on the AM radio and I noticed them but never though what could they be. And I nver saw that informational poster either, maybe it came with a new car, but I didn't have a new car.

I like how Chevy put their name across the push buttons too.

[potownrob]

eye believe eye came upon one of these a while back, eye forget where, but it was something else. kind of like coming upon a roundabout for the first time, it was moar-ore-less a leap of faith. how these junctions and intersections are allowed to be installed without educating the driving masses, seems irresponsible of the govern mint to me.

Good use of a Pubic Service Announcement.
Maybe those worked better when TV was broadcast over-the-air to a regional market.
I do remember some that were national announcements, like "All aliens need to register with the government",
or how to protect your family from "The Bomb".

So that is what those two dots are. I recall cars in the 1960s had those on the AM radio and I noticed them but never though what could they be. And I nver saw that informational poster either, maybe it came with a new car, but I didn't have a new car.

I like how Chevy put their name across the push buttons too.

Eye always thought the dots were just there to separate the other numbers.