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No more manuals left in Audi's U.S. lineup

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"The manual transmission has been dying a slow death, gradually replaced by automatic and dual-clutch gearboxes. And the latest blow comes from Audi."

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/audis ... us-lineup/

Well, there goes Audi. What will 2020 bring?
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"A car who's transmission does his shifting for him. Isn't THAT a fine Audi-Do?"

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What puzzles me is that automatic transmission get harder and harder to drive over the years. You would think that alone would spur a return to manuals. I think that it is like dishwashers and other appliances. The EPA has gotten into the game and ruined them. I'll take an old vacuum modulated automatic over a computer run automatic anytime. At least you can somewhat control it and it does not do stupid shifting like most modern automatic do for me. As for the dishwasher, I bought a new one last February and it will not sufficiently dry the dishes, I guess because EPA thinks it is too much energy use.
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ClutchFork wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:06 pm What puzzles me is that automatic transmission get harder and harder to drive over the years. You would think that alone would spur a return to manuals. I think that it is like dishwashers and other appliances. The EPA has gotten into the game and ruined them. I'll take an old vacuum modulated automatic over a computer run automatic anytime. At least you can somewhat control it and it does not do stupid shifting like most modern automatic do for me. As for the dishwasher, I bought a new one last February and it will not sufficiently dry the dishes, I guess because EPA thinks it is too much energy use.
Gotta say.....I have a Jeep with the 8-speed ZF automatic and it's a fantastic transmission. Incredibly smooth to the point that the shifts are almost imperceptible. And because it has so many gears, it's always in the right gear for any situation. There's a readout in the instrument cluster to show you the current gear and I like to watch that now and again to see how the transmission behaves. It's a really great transmission. Super easy to drive with excellent programming.
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Shadow wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:20 am
ClutchFork wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:06 pm What puzzles me is that automatic transmission get harder and harder to drive over the years. You would think that alone would spur a return to manuals. I think that it is like dishwashers and other appliances. The EPA has gotten into the game and ruined them. I'll take an old vacuum modulated automatic over a computer run automatic anytime. At least you can somewhat control it and it does not do stupid shifting like most modern automatic do for me. As for the dishwasher, I bought a new one last February and it will not sufficiently dry the dishes, I guess because EPA thinks it is too much energy use.
Gotta say.....I have a Jeep with the 8-speed ZF automatic and it's a fantastic transmission. Incredibly smooth to the point that the shifts are almost imperceptible. And because it has so many gears, it's always in the right gear for any situation. There's a readout in the instrument cluster to show you the current gear and I like to watch that now and again to see how the transmission behaves. It's a really great transmission. Super easy to drive with excellent programming.
many of the newer auto trannies are very good. these are, in my opinion at least, leaps and bounds better than the older transmissions, drivability wise at least. the 6 speed auto in my mazda may not have as many gears as the newer trannies, but it is one of the most direct feeling automatics i've ever driven. unlike older automatics, these trannies can make you forget they're there.
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The ZF 8 speed absolutely is not in the right gear in any situation. The shift strategy for deceleration keeps it in 3rd until a full stop, making accelerating from a near-stop frustrating while it hunts for and bangs in to 1st. Otherwise, it's absolutely a wonderful transmission, as far as automatics go.
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I first noted the delayed downshift to first gear just a couple years ago, when the A-604 "Ultradrive" came out. It was my first time driving a vehicle equipped with this transmission, so I was paying attention to some things that may have been occuring on the 3-Speed TorqueFlite transmissions,....or maybe not, because they didn't have electronics controlling the shifting. Tummy, it seemed like the prime directive for automatic transmissions at "The Company Formerly Known as Chrysler" was that the driver should not be aware of any gear changes. I believe that was why the downshift from 3rd was delayed until the vehicle was motionless.
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