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Re: Honest Engines

Post by theholycow » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:29 pm

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Back in the day we would have a friend hook a rope or chain to his bumper and tow the disabled car (assuming it was not a blown ball joint with the wheel at some skewed angle. That was risky and I think now a ticket-able offence.
I've done it a few times and gotten away with it, but that was probably just luck.

Now for anything further than a block or two I use a tow bar, like the kind used when dragging your car behind your motorhome so you'll have something to drive when you get there. No second driver necessary.
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Mine has flanges sticking out sideways that I can lash securely to the bumper with ratchet straps, at least on my 1980 Buick whose bumper is amenable to that sort of thing, rather than bolting it on for a one-off recovery/dragging it to the shop. One of these days I'll have to build/buy brackets to hook my other vehicles with it.

I also connect a heavy chain between the frames of both vehicles and wrap it around the tow bar. If anything or everything else fails, the chain will prevent my rig from going out of control or becoming a problem for others...I'll just have to stop and put it back together. Nothing like that has ever happened.

Of course it's not a 65mph highway rig even with that chain; backroads/moderate speeds only!
Anyway, not having my power brakes and a short tow strap to go the last half mile to the shop (lousy red light and rush traffic or I would have made it with clutchless shifting but for the stop), i did not have a good feel for braking power so basically did overkill and broke the guys strap, so we tied it on this time and go there with a bit less brake effort, but those brake pads got hot enough to smell.
A chain is more appropriate for that type of job. The strap is important when recovering a stuck vehicle because you're gonna break it whether it's a chain or a strap, and you don't want a chain slinging itself back at you when it snaps. To tow an unstuck vehicle you're probably not gonna snap the chain.

Also, you get better at de-powered brakes (and steering) with practice - and IMO everyone should periodically practice (under controlled conditions) by putting it in neutral and killing the engine so you'll be able to handle a moving car with a stalled engine in an emergency.
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Re: Honest Engines

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Re: Honest Engines

Post by ClutchFork » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:42 am

theholycow wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:29 pm
Also, you get better at de-powered brakes (and steering) with practice - and IMO everyone should periodically practice (under controlled conditions) by putting it in neutral and killing the engine so you'll be able to handle a moving car with a stalled engine in an emergency.
Great idea. I should try it sometime.

My friend had a car so unreliable that he kept a tow bar on the front if it all the time.

Yep, chain vs snatch strap, but that was all the guy had I guess.
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Post by Rope-Pusher » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:53 pm

I'm thinkin' that a chain doesn't present the same potential for whipping back at you if you fail a link as you might experience with a rope, a cable, or a strap. I believe that the chain is the stiffest of the bunch, so it does not store much energy in elastic deformation as you apply tension in attempting the tow. A solid tow link would be even better than a chain, but a rubber band would probably be the last thing you should attempt to tow a vehicle with!

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Re: Honest Engines

Post by ClutchFork » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:11 am

^ Very nice illustration of the rubber band towing effect. I think as teens we had towed some cars with rope!
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Instead of identifying the liters of a vehicle's engine, such as a "2.0T" for 2.0-liter turbo, each model will display the torque of the powertrain. Electric powertrains for EVs have no displacement; however, acceleration, as with internal combustion engines, is best measured in torque." - Cadillac

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Re: Honest Engines

Post by tankinbeans » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:28 pm

Oh boy! A measurement for an Amerocentric brand that denizens of these United States aren't going to quite understand. I suppose bigger numbers are better than smaller numbers.
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Re: Honest Engines

Post by potownrob » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:54 am

tankinbeans wrote:
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Oh boy! A measurement for an Amerocentric brand that denizens of these United States aren't going to quite understand. I suppose bigger numbers are better than smaller numbers.
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Re: Honest Engines

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Re: Honest Engines

Post by Rope-Pusher » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:21 pm

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Post by Rope-Pusher » Mon May 13, 2019 12:59 pm

Mazda aims for upscale appeal with inline-6

Inline-6....Din't he formerly post here?

Maybe since he went Upscale, we don't recognize his posts anymore.

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Post by tankinbeans » Mon May 13, 2019 1:28 pm

Would there be a way to design that platform to take transverse 4 cylinder engines and longitudinally mounted inline 6 cylinder engines? Or would it have to be RWD/AWD only? Curious because RWD platforms for large cars are usually expensive, at least when they're sold.

This intrigues me though either way.
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Post by Rope-Pusher » Mon May 13, 2019 9:12 pm

tankinbeans wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:28 pm
Would there be a way to design that platform to take transverse 4 cylinder engines and longitudinally mounted inline 6 cylinder engines? Or would it have to be RWD/AWD only? Curious because RWD platforms for large cars are usually expensive, at least when they're sold.

This intrigues me though either way.
Chrysler's original LH cars had a North-South / Longitudinal FWD powertrain. It was said that there was the flexibility to do AWD or even RWD variants off that platform, but they never went beyond FWD. One example of a RWD Amish was built, but that was the only one that wasn't a slushbox.

Unless you design for it up-front, it's difficult to transition from longitudinal (North-South, or even South-North) to transverse (East-West or West-East) engine layouts.
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Post by ClutchFork » Wed May 15, 2019 8:05 am

Rope-Pusher wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:59 pm
Mazda aims for upscale appeal with inline-6

Inline-6....Din't he formerly post here?

Maybe since he went Upscale, we don't recognize his posts anymore.

https://www.autonews.com/future-product ... -6-engines
That car looks like an electric razor. Where are the engine pictures? That is the most important part and now they like to cover them with a styled piece of plastic. I like inline six engines.
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Re: Honest Engines

Post by watkins » Thu May 16, 2019 2:18 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 9:12 pm
tankinbeans wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:28 pm
Would there be a way to design that platform to take transverse 4 cylinder engines and longitudinally mounted inline 6 cylinder engines? Or would it have to be RWD/AWD only? Curious because RWD platforms for large cars are usually expensive, at least when they're sold.

This intrigues me though either way.
Chrysler's original LH cars had a North-South / Longitudinal FWD powertrain. It was said that there was the flexibility to do AWD or even RWD variants off that platform, but they never went beyond FWD. One example of a RWD Amish was built, but that was the only one that wasn't a slushbox.

Unless you design for it up-front, it's difficult to transition from longitudinal (North-South, or even South-North) to transverse (East-West or West-East) engine layouts.
Also every Saab up until the early-mid '90s
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