Stability Control

NoirX252 · Post by **NoirX252** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:56 pm

Anyone drive with the dsc off in snow? I find that it's better. (bmw rear wheel drive)

eaglecatcher · Post by **eaglecatcher** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:12 pm

I have no controls on my car whatsoever, so I couldn't tell you. Nor do I have snow here in Texas.

No ABS, TC, ESC, etc. My car is all driver input.

six · Post by **six** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:39 pm

No snow, but I drive with it on. If I wanted it off, I would have to turn it off every time I start the car. I only turn it off on "aggressive" launches.

Leedeth · Post by **Leedeth** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:14 pm

eaglecatcher wrote:I have no controls on my car whatsoever, so I couldn't tell you. Nor do I have snow here in Texas.

No ABS, TC, ESC, etc. My car is all driver input.

My car is just a rolling chassis with an engine, body, HVAC without the A/C, and some gauges.

How do you mean it's better without? AFAIK, ESC simply modulates the brakes to keep the car going in a straight line, and keep the wheels from spinning. Just another parasitic loss, IMO.

watkins · Post by **watkins** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:24 pm

Neither of my cars has come with stability control. Its not important. Just know your car and be your own stability control.

comingbackdown · Post by **comingbackdown** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:47 am

watkins wrote:Neither of my cars has come with stability control. Its not important. Just know your car and be your own stability control.

Amen.

GarySheehan · Post by **GarySheehan** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:54 pm

comingbackdown wrote:
watkins wrote:Neither of my cars has come with stability control. Its not important. Just know your car and be your own stability control.
Amen.

Really? You guys know how you're car is going to react when you have to violently swerve out of the way of a pallet that just fell off the back of a truck while traveling at 70mph?

Stability control is amazing technology and should be mandatory on every new vehicle. There is no reason not to drive with it on during highway driving. Actually, the only reason to turn it off is when you are driving too aggressively for public safety, anyway.

Prodigal Son · Post by **Prodigal Son** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:15 pm

Amen to that.

Stability control is amazing technology. It does stuff no driver could possibly do. (Can any of you brake one wheel?) Stability control has access to more information than a driver does, and react faster than any driver can, and can manipulate the brakes on individual wheels, which no driver can do unless they have four brake pedal and five legs. This stuff is outlawed in Formula One because it is better than Michael Schumacher. If it is better than Michael Schumacher, it is better than you.

Post by **jomotopia** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:16 pm

Prodigal Son wrote:Can any of you break one wheel?

well, if i slid really hard into a curb, but only one wheel hit the curb, then yeah i suppose i could manage to break only one wheel.

brake one wheel on the other hand, no.

Post by **Johnf514** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:19 pm

For the average driver, stability control is a godsend. It mops up the small mistakes made that might lead to a larger catastrophe. Yes, it should be defeatable as well, if one was interested in legally racing their car. However, it should be a mandatory feature, as it helps those who get into trouble, get out of trouble.

VTECaddict · Post by **VTECaddict** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:22 pm

doesnt suprise me. many people on here might as well be Amish when it comes to automotive technology.

Prodigal Son · Post by **Prodigal Son** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:23 pm

jomotopia wrote: brake one wheel on the other hand, no.

Fixed, smartypants.

AHTOXA · Post by **AHTOXA** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:24 pm

I'm against traction control in the winter. I hate it. Yet, I'm all pro sability control.

Granted, some manufacturers have better systems than the others.

Prodigal Son · Post by **Prodigal Son** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:26 pm

VTECaddict wrote:doesnt suprise me. many people on here might as well be Amish when it comes to automotive technology.

Indeed. Do you suppose they are still running Windows 3.1 on a 386?

hockeystyx16 · Post by **hockeystyx16** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:21 pm

Leedeth wrote: My car is just a rolling chassis with an engine, body, HVAC without the A/C, and some gauges.

thats cold dude