Reversing in parking garage

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Reversing in parking garage

Post by enniroc » Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:29 pm

From your lovely FAQ:
It seems to be a general consensus on this forum that people worry about their clutch more than they need to.
True as that may be, I've managed to convince myself that I worry about my clutch too little, and use it too much... especially while squeezing into my cramped parking garage spot.

While reversing into my spot, it seems I can't completely let my foot off the clutch. If I did, the car would move very quickly toward a cement post. I'm hardly touching the gas or brake, just quickly bringing the clutch up to the friction point for a little momentum, then depressing it back to the floor. Lather, rinse, repeat, until my car's where it needs to be.

But maybe there's a better way? Back when I drove stick 10 years ago, I lived out in the sticks. None of this parking garage foolishness.

I've only had my new car for a week. If this is a bad habit, I'd like to be rid of it.

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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by AHTOXA » Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:37 pm

Perfectly acceptable. In fact, that's the only efficient way to perform delicate maneuvers. I have used this technique for as many years as I've been driving manual (8-9 years, I think?) and have never had issues. That's how most folks on here drive, too.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by enniroc » Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:32 pm

AHTOXA wrote:Perfectly acceptable. In fact, that's the only efficient way to perform delicate maneuvers. I have used this technique for as many years as I've been driving manual (8-9 years, I think?) and have never had issues. That's how most folks on here drive, too.
Thanks very much! I did what came naturally, but was a bit concerned, since no one ever taught me what to do in that situation.

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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Rope-Pusher » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:29 pm

Going fast in Reverse is over-rated. If I were king, all Reverse gears would have a lot more ratio to enable slow speed maneuvers without dithering the clutch engagement.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by enniroc » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:08 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:Going fast in Reverse is over-rated. If I were king, all Reverse gears would have a lot more ratio to enable slow speed maneuvers without dithering the clutch engagement.
Agreed. I don't like the feel of zipping off in reverse. Too hard to react to obstacles, etc. Stick shifts need R-Low and R-High or something.

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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Rope-Pusher » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:43 pm

enniroc wrote:
Rope-Pusher wrote:Going fast in Reverse is over-rated. If I were king, all Reverse gears would have a lot more ratio to enable slow speed maneuvers without dithering the clutch engagement.
Agreed. I don't like the feel of zipping off in reverse. Too hard to react to obstacles, etc. Stick shifts need R-Low and R-High or something.
I've shifted my transfer case into low range in order to give myself a "creeper" Reverse ger ratio, but in order to do that, I had to select 4 wheel drive, so it's best to not do this on dry pavement unless you can back up straight (no turning while backing up - I have Part-Time 4WD and it will apply high stresses to the driveline if i turn the vehicle on a high-traction road surface).
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Squint » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:58 am

enniroc wrote:
AHTOXA wrote:Perfectly acceptable. In fact, that's the only efficient way to perform delicate maneuvers. I have used this technique for as many years as I've been driving manual (8-9 years, I think?) and have never had issues. That's how most folks on here drive, too.
Thanks very much! I did what came naturally, but was a bit concerned, since no one ever taught me what to do in that situation.
Yeah, I'll second Tony (AHTOXA). I rarely go in reverse all the way to the point where I'm idling in reverse. There's almost always a game being played with the clutch pedal and the friction point.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by tankinbeans » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:58 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:Going fast in Reverse is over-rated. If I were king, all Reverse gears would have a lot more ratio to enable slow speed maneuvers without dithering the clutch engagement.
There should just be MOAR gears if you want ro go schneller in reverse. That's what big rigs do, richtig?
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Rope-Pusher » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:33 pm

tankinbeans wrote:
Rope-Pusher wrote:Going fast in Reverse is over-rated. If I were king, all Reverse gears would have a lot more ratio to enable slow speed maneuvers without dithering the clutch engagement.
There should just be MOAR gears if you want ro go schneller in reverse. That's what big rigs do, richtig?

Well, there it is, you've heard it, the Emporer sez "There are too many gears. There are only so many gears the hand can shift in the course of a drive."

I've given up hope of ever having multiple Reverse gear ranges, so if I had ma druthers, I'd druther that the one Reverse gear have a ratio better suited for slowly backing a heavy trailer up a narrow driveway without having to dither the clutch to control the vehicle's speed.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by theholycow » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:38 pm

I don't know, I kinda enjoy cowboying it in Reverse.

But yeah, either that pulse & glide technique or just continual slipping for backing into a spot is fine.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Rope-Pusher » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:09 pm

theholycow wrote:I don't know, I kinda enjoy cowboying it in Reverse.

But yeah, either that pulse & glide technique or just continual slipping for backing into a spot is fine.
Sure, that's all fine for level, paved ground, but try that pushing a trailer up a grassy hill and you'll build up too much heat in the clutch. That's why Dog invented gear ratios, to spare the clutch.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by enniroc » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:21 pm

Rope-Pusher wrote:
theholycow wrote:I don't know, I kinda enjoy cowboying it in Reverse.

But yeah, either that pulse & glide technique or just continual slipping for backing into a spot is fine.
Sure, that's all fine for level, paved ground, but try that pushing a trailer up a grassy hill and you'll build up too much heat in the clutch. That's why Dog invented gear ratios, to spare the clutch.
Dog rested a day too early, then. :)

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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by Squint » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:08 am

enniroc wrote:
Rope-Pusher wrote:
theholycow wrote:I don't know, I kinda enjoy cowboying it in Reverse.

But yeah, either that pulse & glide technique or just continual slipping for backing into a spot is fine.
Sure, that's all fine for level, paved ground, but try that pushing a trailer up a grassy hill and you'll build up too much heat in the clutch. That's why Dog invented gear ratios, to spare the clutch.
Dog rested a day too early, then. :)
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RP, stop trying to back up grassy hills, just turn the car around and Bo Duke that thing.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by watkins » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:45 am

Rope-Pusher wrote:Sure, that's all fine for level, paved ground, but try that pushing a trailer up a grassy hill and you'll build up too much heat in the clutch. That's why Dog invented gear ratios, to spare the clutch.
Been there, done that. Very not fun.
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Re: Reversing in parking garage

Post by enniroc » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:20 am

Rope-Pusher wrote:
theholycow wrote:I don't know, I kinda enjoy cowboying it in Reverse.

But yeah, either that pulse & glide technique or just continual slipping for backing into a spot is fine.
Sure, that's all fine for level, paved ground, but try that pushing a trailer up a grassy hill and you'll build up too much heat in the clutch. That's why Dog invented gear ratios, to spare the clutch.
Oh lord - I hope I *never* have to do this.

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