Today's dissappointment
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Today's dissappointment
I just did my first attempt on driving stick-shift today in my friend's Honda Accord today in our school's parket lot. I only had 4 attempts to at least back up the car at the parking lot and stalled each of those 4 time. I was so dissapointed that I wasn't even capable of rolling at least a few feet out of the parking space. I never found biting point because the car was parked on a slight incline and feared to experiment with it, despite that the parking brake was engaged.
My friend said I was letting out the clutch too fast. Now...I have watched millions of videos, read trillion of articles, and absorbed hundereds on tips for nearly a year now before I attempted to actually drive a manual transmission today. I even researched about the internal mechanic and anatomy of the drive train. I did knew in my mind that take-offs required slow clutch release. I thought the speed that I used to release the clutch today was slow enough. Never thought it was supposed to be even slower like turtle-slow! How slow does clutch release have to be if you rev up to around 1,500-2,000 RPMs? I guess knowing the whole theory of driving stick is way different than practically driving it.
My friend said he'll give me another session next week claiming that he was running out of gas, but I fear that is hesitant in doing so for stalling the car just 4 times. I tried to ensure him that stalling at slow speeds for a few times wasn't going to mess up his dang car, but I think he refused to believe me.
Maybe I was just too nervous, but I don't want to have to deal with my friend's conscious, so I've been thinking of getting a stick shift for my first bought-car after I move out into my career and develop a stable income of my own. What cars are the best for learning to drive manual? I prefer new models, but specs do not really matter to me now. I just want one stocked with a stick and a reasonable price for
I appreciate any tips given and those who read the whole of this lengthy, comic story!
My friend said I was letting out the clutch too fast. Now...I have watched millions of videos, read trillion of articles, and absorbed hundereds on tips for nearly a year now before I attempted to actually drive a manual transmission today. I even researched about the internal mechanic and anatomy of the drive train. I did knew in my mind that take-offs required slow clutch release. I thought the speed that I used to release the clutch today was slow enough. Never thought it was supposed to be even slower like turtle-slow! How slow does clutch release have to be if you rev up to around 1,500-2,000 RPMs? I guess knowing the whole theory of driving stick is way different than practically driving it.
My friend said he'll give me another session next week claiming that he was running out of gas, but I fear that is hesitant in doing so for stalling the car just 4 times. I tried to ensure him that stalling at slow speeds for a few times wasn't going to mess up his dang car, but I think he refused to believe me.
Maybe I was just too nervous, but I don't want to have to deal with my friend's conscious, so I've been thinking of getting a stick shift for my first bought-car after I move out into my career and develop a stable income of my own. What cars are the best for learning to drive manual? I prefer new models, but specs do not really matter to me now. I just want one stocked with a stick and a reasonable price for
I appreciate any tips given and those who read the whole of this lengthy, comic story!
2014 Ford Focus SE (Hatchback)
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your friend should've moved to a flatter surface (not an incline) before having you drive. also need to give you more than a few chances to get the car moving. don't feel too bad about wearing out his car; the tranny, shifter and clutch can take a lot more abuse than you probably think. you need to have more patience with yourself, and it sounds like your friend might not be as patient as he could be either. have your friend find a nice flat and quiet place (abandoned parking lot?) when you and he have plenty of time and gas to spend.
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Any manual car will do.LastXdeth wrote:What cars are the best for learning to drive manual?
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Thanks for advice, yall!six wrote:Any manual car will do.LastXdeth wrote:What cars are the best for learning to drive manual?
Aren't some trannies more "industructable" or at least more "resistant" to the beginner's wrath than others?
I am thinking that a Kia Rio LX (base model) would be the cheapest option, but is its clutch forgiving?
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^ No, it's clutch isn't forgiving, it's forclutching. Presents are forgiving.
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I heard that cars with a smaller engine would be easier then lets say a school bus.six wrote:Any manual car will do.LastXdeth wrote:What cars are the best for learning to drive manual?
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See the link in my sig for the exercises I recommend for your stalling difficulties.
Your problem isn't the speed at which you're moving the clutch pedal, it's the steady motion. No matter how slow you move it, if you keep moving then you'll stall. You have to pause once it starts to have some noticeable friction. Don't be afraid to stare at the tachometer.
Your problem isn't the speed at which you're moving the clutch pedal, it's the steady motion. No matter how slow you move it, if you keep moving then you'll stall. You have to pause once it starts to have some noticeable friction. Don't be afraid to stare at the tachometer.
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watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD
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very truebk7794 wrote:I heard that cars with a smaller engine would be easier then lets say a school bus.six wrote:Any manual car will do.LastXdeth wrote:What cars are the best for learning to drive manual?
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Easiest and most forgiving manual transmission car I've ever driven is the Mini Cooper. Even a total noob can feel like a pro behind the wheel of that car. Very forgiving for sure...LastXdeth wrote:Thanks for advice, yall!six wrote:Any manual car will do.LastXdeth wrote:What cars are the best for learning to drive manual?
Aren't some trannies more "industructable" or at least more "resistant" to the beginner's wrath than others?
I am thinking that a Kia Rio LX (base model) would be the cheapest option, but is its clutch forgiving?
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Generally, cars with geared high or with a lot of torque will be easier to drive.
- muscle cars
- trucks
Muscle cars or generally powerful cars will have mo torque, which helps with getting going faster. Trucks are often geared high, achieving a similar effect.
- muscle cars
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Muscle cars or generally powerful cars will have mo torque, which helps with getting going faster. Trucks are often geared high, achieving a similar effect.
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I think you meant "low", not "high".
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watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD
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Rope-Pusher wrote:^ No, it's clutch isn't forgiving, it's forclutching. Presents are forgiving.
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Regarding the Rio, if its clutch is anything like mine (Kia Forte), it is not very pleasant; I found it very hard to get used to, and since I'm still a n00b feel qualified to say that. Originally, I learned with my friend's Mustang.
Another thing you'll have to get used to with any Kia, and most other new cars for that matter, is the drive-by-wire system. Throttle has turned into nothing more than a foot operated switch and there is a very noticeable delay between when you feel you're applying the gas and when the gas actually gets applied. ***Any of the more engineering focused people here can explain better than I could.***
Another thing you'll have to get used to with any Kia, and most other new cars for that matter, is the drive-by-wire system. Throttle has turned into nothing more than a foot operated switch and there is a very noticeable delay between when you feel you're applying the gas and when the gas actually gets applied. ***Any of the more engineering focused people here can explain better than I could.***
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I had very similar complaints about my 2008 VW.
It may be possible to get an aftermarket tuning company to adjust your computer to provide reasonable throttle operation. There's plenty of potential engineering reasons, but I suspect that the delay is really there on purpose to absorb unintended foot twitches for the sake of fuel economy.
It may be possible to get an aftermarket tuning company to adjust your computer to provide reasonable throttle operation. There's plenty of potential engineering reasons, but I suspect that the delay is really there on purpose to absorb unintended foot twitches for the sake of fuel economy.
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watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD