Hill Starts by shuffling feet
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45 degrees is a pretty damn steep hill-lol So I'm sure you'd be uncomfortable on anything below 30 degrees, but like everyone said - hand brake is your friend. It might need to be adjusted if the car still continues to roll a bit when you applied it.
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Re: Hill Starts by shuffling feet
Yep. There was a guy on here whose e-brake was f'ed up so bad even on the slightest incline his car would roll back .
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Wow, you know you are a standardshifter when.........................paul34 wrote:I had a dream yesterday where I came home to my driveway to find my car rolling back inch by inch out of the garage, like when your handbrake fails and it keep struggling against being in gear (not sure why I wasn't in my car?). So I bumped my car with the car i was in to keep it from moving out of desperation, but there was another car inching out of the garage in the same way, so I pushed my car I was pushing into that car, which was also a car exactly like mine, but everything felt normal in that both cars were mine even though they were the exact same. Then I parked the car I was in and got out and that was the end of that dream
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. I wanted to type that, but I had a brain fart.
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Re: Hill Starts by shuffling feet
I'm pretty comfortable with uphill starts now, but as I've only been driving a stick for a week I haven't had to perform an uphill start while it's raining on a slick road. Does anyone do anything different on an uphill start when it's raining, like using your ebrake when you normally wouldn't on a dry day? Or do you do the same steps, same timing, just with even more focus? My one fear is that I'll do it the same way as I do on dry surface but then the slick road causing my wheels to spin thus causing me to roll back into the car behind me. Yikes!
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Re: Hill Starts by shuffling feet
+1. Just don't overthink it. It'll come with time. But until you're comfortable enough, use the handbrake. That's what it's there for.paul34 wrote:No. Eventually you'll be comfortable enough with hill starts that they really won't be any different than a regular start, it'll all be "automatic" (ha) in your head. For now, don't be afraid to use the handbrake method. There's nothing wrong with it and it is a technically correct method of hillstarting.jmpeace501 wrote:I'm pretty comfortable with uphill starts now, but as I've only been driving a stick for a week I haven't had to perform an uphill start while it's raining on a slick road. Does anyone do anything different on an uphill start when it's raining, like using your ebrake when you normally wouldn't on a dry day? Or do you do the same steps, same timing, just with even more focus? My one fear is that I'll do it the same way as I do on dry surface but then the slick road causing my wheels to spin thus causing me to roll back into the car behind me. Yikes!
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And don't worry about the roll-back terror - totally normal! You really don't roll back as far as you think you do, but really, it is a useful fear because it really teaches you to pay attention to and avoid rolling back.
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thanks Paul34 & FDSpirit !!! on dry uphill starts i haven't had to use ebrake (my car actually has a feature where if it senses you're on a hill the brake will actually still engage for 2 seconds after you take your foot off the break pedal - which is great - gives me plenty of time to move from the brake over to the gas and let off of the clutch a bit to get going) - but, i will use my ebreak at least the first few times on uphill starts on a slick road or when it's raining when i get the "opportunity" to do so.
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whats an ebrake? my truck doesnt have one well it does but the cable is broken in like 3 places.....
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Your hill hold feature should be fine. I'd say don't do anything different unless you need to for your own confidence.
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I can honestly admit i've never used the handbrake when starting on a hill (mostly because it's very loose and doesn't hold good). I just avoided hills until i got good (about a month). And now i have to start this process all over again (new clutch) lol.
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I use the handbrake on steep stuff. Otherwise the brief clutch hold method works for me.
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Re: Hill Starts by shuffling feet
just hold yourself on the hill with the clutch halfway out and giving a little gas! theres no wear! trust me!!!!
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LHOswald wrote:just hold yourself on the hill with the clutch halfway out and giving a little gas! theres no wear! trust me!!!!
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Re: Hill Starts by shuffling feet
My friend's driveway is maybe 20 degrees, and even when I push my parking brake all the way in (on an F-150) I still roll backwards. It's fine for very slight inclines or level grades but it's useless otherwise. Consequently I use the no e-brake method. That and also because to release my brake I have to bend down under the steering column to near where the hood latch is.FDSpirit wrote:Yep. There was a guy on here whose e-brake was f'ed up so bad even on the slightest incline his car would roll back .
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1. reaches down to release parking brakeMo Jiggity wrote:My friend's driveway is maybe 20 degrees, and even when I push my parking brake all the way in (on an F-150) I still roll backwards. It's fine for very slight inclines or level grades but it's useless otherwise. Consequently I use the no e-brake method. That and also because to release my brake I have to bend down under the steering column to near where the hood latch is.FDSpirit wrote:Yep. There was a guy on here whose e-brake was f'ed up so bad even on the slightest incline his car would roll back .
2. Ease off the clutch and onto the gas
3. pulls lever and..... stalls with no rolling back
4. passenger says, "why did you pop your hood?"