Dogleg shifters

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Squint
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Re: Dogleg shifters

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^^ What? I thought you had been driving sticks since the invention of the wheel.

In order of creation:

Wheel -> RP -> 2 gear transmission.
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Re: Dogleg shifters

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... and for most cars, sixth and seventh are also mere curiosities installed for bragging rights on the Autobahn or the EPA highway cycle.
Thats how I feel about it.

Early dog leg that is a lot of fun to drive and very convenient if you have a third front seat passenger:
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Or does the reverse have to be set farther left than 1st to be called a dogleg?
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Re: Dogleg shifters

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Quote, originally posted by Wikipedia »

Dog leg layout gearboxes are usually found on performance automobiles because in road racing it is rare to shift into first gear other than for the initial start or exiting a pit lane.
Notable street cars to feature the dog leg layout are the BMW M535 and (Non-US) M3 E30, BMW 2002 Tii and Turbo, Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 and 2.5-16, Porsche 914, early 911, 924 Turbo (all featuring Getrag gearboxes) Porsche 928, Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, Vauxhall Firenza HPF and the Lamborghini Miura. A non-performance car to feature such a shift pattern is the Subaru 360. Also: Datsun 160J Hardtop SSS. A dog leg transmission has also been seen in odd places such as a 1980 Datsun 210 Wagon built during the 210/310 crossover or a Citroën 2CV.
Many Datsun/Nissan 200SX models utilized the dogleg shift pattern. The Transmission used in the American 200sx (not to be confused with European or Japanese 200sx, which are completely different) is a popular swap for the 1968-1973 Datsun 510 (which came with a borg warner 3 spd auto or a 4spd manual w/ no overdrive.) as it bolts in only needing a modified cross member mounting.
The mid 70's Oldsmobile Cutlass with the 260 V8 had an optional 5 speed transmission that utilized the dog leg shift pattern.
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Re: Dogleg shifters

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Good illustration Rope. :D

Poor doggie. :(
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Re: Dogleg shifters

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Squint wrote:^^ What? I thought you had been driving sticks since the invention of the wheel.

In order of creation:

Wheel -> RP -> 2 gear transmission.
Who told you that the first car I ever drove had a powerglide transmission?
It would go up to 60 mph in low gear. Prolly best that I never did find out how fast it would go in high.
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