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Notchy?

Post by gburn » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:23 pm

What does it mean when someone criticizes a transmission or shifter as being "notchy."
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Re: Notchy?

Post by jomotopia » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:54 pm

it means the shifting motion feels just that, notchy. you can feel it coming out of gear, pushing against the synchro, and clicking into gear. as opposed to being a perfectly smooth, fluid motion. personally i prefer a shifter that is at least a little notchy. i like the feedback of what's going on. my shifter is VERY notchy.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by FDSpirit » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:10 pm

jomotopia wrote:it means the shifting motion feels just that, notchy. you can feel it coming out of gear, pushing against the synchro, and clicking into gear. as opposed to being a perfectly smooth, fluid motion. personally i prefer a shifter that is at least a little notchy. i like the feedback of what's going on. my shifter is VERY notchy.
+1. I like the fact I can feel my shifter going into gear. It isn't probably as notchy as yours, Jomo, but it is something I like strangely enough.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by theholycow » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:36 pm

My VW's transmission is the opposite of notchy. It's buttery smooth. It's got just enough feedback that you never miss any information...it communicates, you just have to retune your hand to listen more closely.

When I first got it I criticized it as being like a video game, but now that I've tuned in I can say it provides ample feedback. I wish I could say the same about the clutch.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by FDSpirit » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:40 pm

I've heard that from just about every VW owner I know. And that isn't just current ones either. As long is there is some type of feel from the shifter, I'm good. I just don't want a shifter that is too smooth.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by fa22raptorf22 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:30 pm

There is two versions of "notchy"
1) The good kind
->This is what I like. A crisp shift that clicks in and out of gear and just plain feels excellent.
These shifters have excellent feedback and you can feel everything through the linkage.

2) the bad.
->Some shifters are notchy in the sense that they feel bad by not going in smooth and clean.
There is a difference between notchy and crisp, and notchy and cranky.

The cranky is when you push for a gate and the lever kind of notches its way in. Instead of a nice *clunk*, you get more of a *claaaa...clunk*

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Re: Notchy?

Post by gburn » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:27 pm

fa22raptorf22 wrote:There is two versions of "notchy"
1) The good kind
->This is what I like. A crisp shift that clicks in and out of gear and just plain feels excellent.
These shifters have excellent feedback and you can feel everything through the linkage.

2) the bad.
->Some shifters are notchy in the sense that they feel bad by not going in smooth and clean.
There is a difference between notchy and crisp, and notchy and cranky.

The cranky is when you push for a gate and the lever kind of notches its way in. Instead of a nice *clunk*, you get more of a *claaaa...clunk*
That's a helpful distinction.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by watkins » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:51 pm

Good notchy shifters also frequently pop in to gear with a satisfying thunk sound. I can hear my gears/other transmission bits moving around as I shift. The rod linkage transmits sound into the cockpit pretty well in that regard.
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Re: Notchy?

Post by AHTOXA » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:44 am

jomotopia wrote:it means the shifting motion feels just that, notchy. you can feel it coming out of gear, pushing against the synchro, and clicking into gear. as opposed to being a perfectly smooth, fluid motion. personally i prefer a shifter that is at least a little notchy. i like the feedback of what's going on. my shifter is VERY notchy.
Yeah, the goat's also very notchy. I don't mind at all. When I drove the VW, it was buttery smooth.
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