Best Looking Interiors

General discussion about cars. Looking to buy a new car? Have a great driving story? Post it here!
User avatar
FDSpirit
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 6157
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:23 pm
Cars: 2000 Honda Civic Si
Location: Troy/Albany, NY
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by FDSpirit » Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:42 pm

theholycow wrote: I do tend to shift more than most people. I enjoy shifting, and I enjoy squeezing out that last little piece of one MPG by shifting to stay in the perfect RPM for my speed...so at certain speeds I'm shifting constantly. A floating shifter like that Civic one, or a shifter almost at shoulder height like in that Porsche, would be tiring and unpleasant.

They are probably good for tense racer-wannabe drivers tightly gripping the steering wheel with their whole white-knuckled fists at 10:00 and 2:00...not so much for relaxed medium/long distance commuters.
Image<----Probably for guys like that.
I think I have the same driving setup as you, THC. Never really think about it though.
2000 Honda Civic Si- Slightly faster than your grandmomma's grocery getter......slightly.

User avatar
theholycow
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 16004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
Cars: '80 Buick LeSabre 4.1 5MT
Location: Glocester, RI
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by theholycow » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:02 pm

ElectroGhandi wrote:[youtube]Sprinter shifting[youtube]
That looks like something you shift because you have to, not because you want to.
1980 Buick LeSabre 4.1L 5MT

Put your car in your sig!

Learn to launch/FAQs/lugging/misused terms: meta-sig
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD

User avatar
theholycow
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 16004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
Cars: '80 Buick LeSabre 4.1 5MT
Location: Glocester, RI
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by theholycow » Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:04 pm

FDSpirit wrote:I think I have the same driving setup as you, THC. Never really think about it though.
You'll start thinking about it a lot after you spend 170,000 miles in a car that doesn't fit for your position. :x

That's why I'm so picky about my vehicles. Those were some miserable years. I should not have kept that car so long, but when I commit, I stay committed...
1980 Buick LeSabre 4.1L 5MT

Put your car in your sig!

Learn to launch/FAQs/lugging/misused terms: meta-sig
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD

User avatar
Swimmerboy
Junior Standardshifter
Posts: 90
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:17 am
Cars: 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by Swimmerboy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:44 pm

I gotta rep the Tiburon lol
Image
Image
2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT V6 5 Speed

Jastreb
Senior Standardshifter
Posts: 434
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:57 pm
Cars: 2009 Mazda RX-8 R3, Blue
Location: LA Metro area, California

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by Jastreb » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:18 pm

theholycow wrote: They are probably good for tense racer-wannabe drivers tightly gripping the steering wheel with their whole white-knuckled fists at 10:00 and 2:00...not so much for relaxed medium/long distance commuters.
Which doesn't help their driving one bit. When in "tense" situations I like to hold the wheel at 9:3 with the elbows bent and my arms relaxed.

Bah... those high up shifters belong in minivans, which have a super-upright seating position. Where is our resident minvan driver? I wonder where they put the shifter on that car?
2009 Mazda RX-8 R3

User avatar
ElectroGhandi
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 2668
Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:44 am
Cars: 1994 Isuzu Rodeo V6
Location: Baltimore, MD
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by ElectroGhandi » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:28 pm

To be fair, the Mazda5 is not your run-of-the-mill minivan. It's more like a sportwagon with sliding doors.
Image

User avatar
1974Alfa5spd
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 7426
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:36 am
Location: Hill Start Central

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by 1974Alfa5spd » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:42 pm

ElectroGhandi wrote:sportwagon
Image
It's pronounced sportvagen.
KTNXBAI.

User avatar
theholycow
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 16004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
Cars: '80 Buick LeSabre 4.1 5MT
Location: Glocester, RI
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by theholycow » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:09 pm

Jastreb wrote:Bah... those high up shifters belong in minivans, which have a super-upright seating position. Where is our resident minvan driver? I wonder where they put the shifter on that car?
I have driven minivans a couple times and found them extremely pleasant to drive. The ones I've driven have been extremely comfortable, handled similarly to a car (obviously not quite as well), and were tuned to compensate for lameness by having very good throttle response and hyper automatic transmissions that downshift at the drop of a hat.

To drive one with a manual transmission, I would ideally want a shifter in the same position (relative to the driver) as I want it in a car. I would not want it sticking out of the vertical dash surface nor would I want it extending way up from the floor.

A Mazda5's cockpit, IIRC, is not configured as a minivan with a flat walking floor that extends from the hatch to the dash and enough space between the seats for someone to sit on a milk crate. The driver sits in (not on) a bucket seat (not a captain's chair) with a console next to him (not non-existent or below him).

...or I could be wrong.
Image
1980 Buick LeSabre 4.1L 5MT

Put your car in your sig!

Learn to launch/FAQs/lugging/misused terms: meta-sig
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD

User avatar
watkins
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 15713
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:42 am
Cars: 1999 Saab Viggen
Location: Salem, MA

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by watkins » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:28 pm

Thats not terrible though.
Image

Caramel
Senior Standardshifter
Posts: 548
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:37 am
Cars: [1999 Volvo S70]

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by Caramel » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:44 am

Image
I like the shifter location for this and the honda.
Image
the odyssey probably has one of the most comfortable/nicest interiors for a minivan. :)
Last edited by Caramel on Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image

User avatar
Leedeth
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 7469
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:33 am
Location: Suburbia

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by Leedeth » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:57 am

HAHAHAHAHHAAA IMAGE FAIL

User avatar
1974Alfa5spd
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 7426
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:36 am
Location: Hill Start Central

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by 1974Alfa5spd » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:30 am

Caramel wrote:Image
Link broken.

User avatar
theholycow
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 16004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
Cars: '80 Buick LeSabre 4.1 5MT
Location: Glocester, RI
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by theholycow » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:04 am

Caramel wrote:Image
I like the shifter location for this and the honda.
[img]image fail - looks just like the image above except with a Honda logo on the steering wheel[img]

the odyssey probably has one of the most comfortable/nicest interiors for a minivan. :)
What is the purpose of having that kind of shifter there? What does it accomplish other than obstructing access to the radio and vent? That needs a column shifter, which would be out of the way, no less convenient, and far less ugly.
1980 Buick LeSabre 4.1L 5MT

Put your car in your sig!

Learn to launch/FAQs/lugging/misused terms: meta-sig
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD

Caramel
Senior Standardshifter
Posts: 548
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:37 am
Cars: [1999 Volvo S70]

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by Caramel » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:34 am

fixed it. :P
I think it's cool in a novelty kind of way. My dad always has trouble with the column shifter, can't seem to get it to go into the right notches. I can see this being better for some people.

But you're right the column style is much more discreet and out of the way.
Image

User avatar
theholycow
Master Standardshifter
Posts: 16004
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:36 pm
Cars: '80 Buick LeSabre 4.1 5MT
Location: Glocester, RI
Contact:

Re: Best Looking Interiors

Post by theholycow » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:43 am

Caramel wrote:My dad always has trouble with the column shifter, can't seem to get it to go into the right notches. I can see this being better for some people.
Assuming that there's nothing wrong with it, the trick is to stop operating the lockout once you're past the lock. Just like you let go of the button on a T-handle shifter after you get out of P and continue moving it, you let the column shifter spring forwards towards the dash while continuing to move it vertically.

One of the things I hated about my Grand Am was the lowest-common-denominator interface with big plasticky knurled knobs designed for old people and toddlers to operate. I'm not sure a minivan needs it either; they tend to be driven by parents of child-raising age, not elderly.
1980 Buick LeSabre 4.1L 5MT

Put your car in your sig!

Learn to launch/FAQs/lugging/misused terms: meta-sig
watkins wrote:Humans have rear-biased AWD. Cows have 4WD

Post Reply