Shifter linkage bushing.

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Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby bk7794 » Tue May 20, 2014 5:29 pm

So today while changing the oil in the 2000 I was fooling around with the shift linkage. I found that one of the linkages has a bit of play in it. Though I am trying to determine if that linkage has anything to do with the problems I have been having.

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The bushing is number 14. I wonder how difficult an R and R will be.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby DrJerryrigger » Tue May 20, 2014 6:33 pm

If it's not to hard to get at I'd try rapping it in electrical tape to take the slop out. If that makes thing feel better buy a new bushing. Looks like a simple job when there isn't a car around the parts ;)

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby bk7794 » Tue May 20, 2014 7:00 pm

I don't know if that would even work. I'm not sure where the slop is. I was thinking of having someone sit under the car and play with the rod while I run through the gears.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby DrJerryrigger » Tue May 20, 2014 7:13 pm

bk7794 wrote:I don't know if that would even work. I'm not sure where the slop is. I was thinking of having someone sit under the car and play with the rod while I run through the gears.

I suggest doing that the other way around. It's much harder to find volunteers to hang out under your car than sit in it.

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby watkins » Tue May 20, 2014 9:13 pm

bk7794 wrote:I don't know if that would even work. I'm not sure where the slop is. I was thinking of having someone sit under me and play with the rod.

Oh yeah? :oops:
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby Rope-Pusher » Tue May 20, 2014 10:42 pm

Eye ham stinkin' that you could safely support the vehicle, then slide under it with a light and look at the various bushings, pivots and connections as you perturb rods 12 and 13. Look for lost motion, where the rod moves, but the part it connects to doesn't - you may have to perturb the rods real subtle-like to see how far they can move before the next part in the conga-line moves along with them.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby bk7794 » Wed May 21, 2014 9:20 pm

watkins wrote:
bk7794 wrote:I don't know if that would even work. I'm not sure where the slop is. I was thinking of having someone sit under me and play with the rod.

Oh yeah? :oops:


lol, I was wondering if someone was going to catch that.

Rope-Pusher wrote:Eye ham stinkin' that you could safely support the vehicle, then slide under it with a light and look at the various bushings, pivots and connections as you perturb rods 12 and 13. Look for lost motion, where the rod moves, but the part it connects to doesn't - you may have to perturb the rods real subtle-like to see how far they can move before the next part in the conga-line moves along with them.


I think I see what you mean. So basically have someone gradually move toward the gears while seeing if the rods move?

I only felt play in rod 13. The gear shifter was in first at the time.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby Rope-Pusher » Wed May 21, 2014 9:27 pm

bk7794 wrote:
watkins wrote:
bk7794 wrote:I don't know if that would even work. I'm not sure where the slop is. I was thinking of having someone sit under me and play with the rod.

Oh yeah? :oops:


lol, I was wondering if someone was going to catch that.

Rope-Pusher wrote:Eye ham stinkin' that you could safely support the vehicle, then slide under it with a light and look at the various bushings, pivots and connections as you perturb rods 12 and 13. Look for lost motion, where the rod moves, but the part it connects to doesn't - you may have to perturb the rods real subtle-like to see how far they can move before the next part in the conga-line moves along with them.


I think I see what you mean. So basically have someone gradually move toward the gears while seeing if the rods move?

I only felt play in rod 13. The gear shifter was in first at the time.


If I was under the car, i'd just push and tug on the rods from under there myself.

Rod 13 freeplay prolly isn't as critical as freeplay in rod 12. 13 is reacting the shift load, but 12 is transmitting the shift lever movement to the transmission innards. Freeplay there would be more directly felt as freeplay at the shift knob.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby bk7794 » Sat May 24, 2014 12:35 pm

Alright, I did tug on 12 and I felt like I was just moving the shifter. Since I Was on ramps I didn't want to fool with it too much cause I didn't want the car to roll off the ramps or something. The shifter itself feels quite good. It's just I found a way sort of around that Reverse problem. I noticed if I push the shifter to the right and while maintaining my force on the right wall drop it in reverse it engages better.

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby potownrob » Sat May 24, 2014 11:55 pm

i think they sell those bushings on ebay. some came with an aftermarket shifter i got. since you seem to be mechanically inclined and have already examined your shiftage linkage, you might like to put in an aftermarket shorter shifterer. dc sports makes a good one for those civics. don't forget though, no rice!! :o 8) :lol: :mrgreen:
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby bk7794 » Sun May 25, 2014 10:25 am

They sell genuine ones too for only a couple bucks. I intend to keep it stock though.
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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby potownrob » Sun May 25, 2014 10:30 am

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby DrJerryrigger » Sun May 25, 2014 6:02 pm

[quote="potownrob"]i think they sell those bushings on ebay. some came with an aftermarket shifter i got. since you seem to be mechanically inclined and have already examined your shiftage linkage, you might like to put in an aftermarket shorter shifterer. dc sports makes a good one for those civics. don't forget though, no rice!! :o 8) :lol: :mrgreen:[/quote]

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby Squint » Tue May 27, 2014 9:09 am

DrJerryrigger wrote:Foe [sic] every aftermarket part you put in your car you must put three stickers of aftermarket parts makers on a window. It's the rule, it's on page 12 or 23 (depending on the year and make) of every Honda owner's manual since 1994.

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Re: Shifter linkage bushing.

Postby potownrob » Tue May 27, 2014 10:22 am

Squint wrote:
DrJerryrigger wrote:Foe [sic] every aftermarket part you put in your car you must put three stickers of aftermarket parts makers on a window. It's the rule, it's on page 12 or 23 (depending on the year and make) of every Honda owner's manual since 1994.

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