a hiccup when cold saturn sl

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a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:22 am

Hello all, hope its ok to post this here. Its not a stick shift isssue but my car is a manual.
when the car is started up first time of the day it has this issue . Youll take off to start driving always happens within 1 mile of taking off. Youll be going and the engine will buck one time
asts about 1 second then its fine for the rest of the day.
the car is a 02 saturn sl
new plugs and wires, new pre cat o2
intake gasket checked coils checked injectors checked, tps replaced for high idle.
Reading the plugs they look perfect. Throttle body cleaned. Vacuum leaks checked for there arent any.no engine lights either. Im at a loss. Any ideas? Thanks everyone.

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby theholycow » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:29 am

Do you go the same way for that first mile every day and drive the same? If you go slower or faster, or shift at a different RPM, does it still happen?
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:54 am

This buck is a characteristic, not an issue. Characteristics are those endearing traits that we come to know and love. Issues are imperfections that we let gnaw at us.

Yanno, if you are unable to make the transition from this being an issue to this being a characteristic, there is a 16 year old living near you who, for the majestic sum of $1 (Just to make it a legal business proposition), will drive your vehicle that first mile each day and endure the condition. Call it the "Buck for a Buck" solution.
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:53 am

Rope-Pusher wrote:This buck is a characteristic, not an issue. Characteristics are those endearing traits that we come to know and love. Issues are imperfections that we let gnaw at us.

Yanno, if you are unable to make the transition from this being an issue to this being a characteristic, there is a 16 year old living near you who, for the majestic sum of $1 (Just to make it a legal business proposition), will drive your vehicle that first mile each day and endure the condition. Call it the "Buck for a Buck" solution.


Well two days ago it did it right when I was taking off to turn left at a light in had a green light but not the arrow so there is the potential for oncoming traffic. Not a fun place to be in when it happens. And yes I go the same way I've tried driving easy and I've tried driving hard it's done it either way but it doesn't do it every time. Yesterday I had my wife drive just so I can watch the live data to see if I could see anything funny happen. And it acted perfect.

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby Rope-Pusher » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:35 am

dakta1420 wrote:
Rope-Pusher wrote:This buck is a characteristic, not an issue. Characteristics are those endearing traits that we come to know and love. Issues are imperfections that we let gnaw at us.

Yanno, if you are unable to make the transition from this being an issue to this being a characteristic, there is a 16 year old living near you who, for the majestic sum of $1 (Just to make it a legal business proposition), will drive your vehicle that first mile each day and endure the condition. Call it the "Buck for a Buck" solution.


Well two days ago it did it right when I was taking off to turn left at a light in had a green light but not the arrow so there is the potential for oncoming traffic. Not a fun place to be in when it happens.

Well, tell the kid to make sure he stays in the neighborhood and doesn't try to pull out on the highway when he puts his mile on the car.
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:22 pm

Not going to sell the car.....why that would be a first suggestion is beyond me.....

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby theholycow » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:34 pm

Don't mind Rope-Pusher. He's joking about paying someone to drive the first mile for you. With more information, he'd be the first one with the right diagnosis (if you could decipher his jokespeak).
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:12 pm

Lol.
I just wish the darn car would mess up worse so I could actually figure it out. I dont even know what to check. Lol

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby tankinbeans » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:20 pm

Intermittent misfire?
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:43 pm

tankinbeans wrote:Intermittent misfire?


I don't know. It's very consistent in the sense that it always happens when cold within a mile. Plugs are new copper ngk and new wires. I tested resistance on the coil towers and the plug wires. And injector. Also sprayed water along wires and coil to see if maybe there was a bad spot some where....but nothing.

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:22 am

Well hasn't done it in 4 days today we had a cold morning and it did it again so it definitely a temperature related issue. Any ideas?

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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby theholycow » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:42 am

Intake air temperature sensor reading wrong, maybe?

My car does it too, but then mine is equipped with Flintstones technology, no computer or electronic controls at all other than a very basic electronic ignition. The air/fuel system is completely mechanical. Even so it might not do it if it had all of its original stuff but when I took it to the shop to have my exhaust manifold leak fixed they threw out the heat shield that heats intake air. People look at that stuff and say "yuck, some kind of emissions crap that we didn't need in the 1950s" but it really is nice to have a more drivable vehicle.
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby monkeyhunk » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:52 pm

theholycow wrote:Don't mind Rope-Pusher. He's joking about paying someone to drive the first mile for you. With more information, he'd be the first one with the right diagnosis (if you could decipher his jokespeak).


Not only that....try finding a 16 year old that knows how to use a clutch these days.
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Re: a hiccup when cold saturn sl

Postby dakta1420 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:11 pm

I was actually talking to my teacher today. He said he wished there was a course for them to teach us to drive a stick. No one taught me but less and less people own then so it makes it more challenging to find one to even learn on.


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