how do u start off with a hard launch?
Well, that's what "performance upgrades" essentially boils down to: better performance, poorer reliability, less comfort. Pretty much every performance upgrade (especially in the horsepower game, not so much in handling upgrades) involves making your car as a system work harder to make more power and involves compromises to gain the performance. Exhaust? Louder noise. Air filter? More dirt going into your engine (less being and filtered, and with ram air, risk of sucking up water. Bigger cam? More aggressive ramp rates = greater wear + more heat. Even replacing a part with a better, stronger one causes problems; you get a clutch that bites harder, that puts more strain on the tranny. You get stiffer suspension pieces (control arms, springs, etc.), the suspension transmits more stress to other components.
I fully understand how senseless it appears, and how silly it is to waste money making a car go faster, especially with the prices for mods nowadays. But one can say the same about making a car look nice, or making a car's audio system sound nice. In the end, it boils down to kids (whether they're 16 or 60) having too much money to spend on anything better. If none of that mattered, we'd all be driving Civics. Besides, I prefer my car; it doesn't b*tch at me as often as the g/f.
I fully understand how senseless it appears, and how silly it is to waste money making a car go faster, especially with the prices for mods nowadays. But one can say the same about making a car look nice, or making a car's audio system sound nice. In the end, it boils down to kids (whether they're 16 or 60) having too much money to spend on anything better. If none of that mattered, we'd all be driving Civics. Besides, I prefer my car; it doesn't b*tch at me as often as the g/f.
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You absolutely nailed it in your last sentence. Personally, I just don't see the point of applying my money (and I am financially secure, however not wealthy, per se) into an ever-depreciating tool.
With the right (or rather, large) amount of extra cash, I bet it'd be fun to mod up a car. Yet so many folks I see modding have little to no cash; those are the people I refer to as two steps short of insane.
Thanks for the insight.
With the right (or rather, large) amount of extra cash, I bet it'd be fun to mod up a car. Yet so many folks I see modding have little to no cash; those are the people I refer to as two steps short of insane.
Thanks for the insight.
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can you decribe a jackrabbit start? from what you said that seemed like a more healthy way to accelerate from a stop-all of this dropping and slipping has me nervous about ruining a transmission.
i would just watch the video but i get no sound on the aggressive start one.
i would just watch the video but i get no sound on the aggressive start one.
damn i wish i knew about cars...
Well, people do buy lottery tickets... and booze... and cigarettes...Johnf514 wrote:You absolutely nailed it in your last sentence. Personally, I just don't see the point of applying my money (and I am financially secure, however not wealthy, per se) into an ever-depreciating tool.
With the right (or rather, large) amount of extra cash, I bet it'd be fun to mod up a car. Yet so many folks I see modding have little to no cash; those are the people I refer to as two steps short of insane.
Thanks for the insight.
I hear ya on some of those fixed up cars though. I won't go on, lest I run my mouth the wrong way, but I will say that there's always someone faster and richer than you out there.
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That sums it up.
Come to think of it, a lot of these rich modders must have a regular car and a mod car. I wouldn't know; the posers around here blow each paycheck on ground effects and dent up their body kits week by week.
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Of course they do. They are racing for prize money, status, and their sponsers (sp?). However, is the average modder racing for this? Do you get a cash reward and thousands from Pepsi for being the 3rd place to work?
In that lies my point. Yet, I do know, my point is no fun.
In that lies my point. Yet, I do know, my point is no fun.
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jackrabbit start is a regular start, but faster.mikesta21 wrote:can you decribe a jackrabbit start? from what you said that seemed like a more healthy way to accelerate from a stop-all of this dropping and slipping has me nervous about ruining a transmission.
i would just watch the video but i get no sound on the aggressive start one.
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what gear should i get the fast start in!?
i get the whole dropping the clutch but should you start in 1st gear? or can you start at a higher gear since you have some speed off the get go? if im an idiot adress me as one cuz i just got my first stick a week ago and ive only driven it twice.
why is there a third pedal!!!
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alright, address you as an idiot
k, if you're wanting a hard launch, you don't want to rev-up and rop the clutch due to it being extremely difficult on the all the parts. The method of feathering the clutch is around here somewhere, i'm just too lazy to retype it... lol as for the take off, you would want to start in 1st for more accleration and wind that gear to redline as well as 2nd, 3rd, 4th.. etc/
k, if you're wanting a hard launch, you don't want to rev-up and rop the clutch due to it being extremely difficult on the all the parts. The method of feathering the clutch is around here somewhere, i'm just too lazy to retype it... lol as for the take off, you would want to start in 1st for more accleration and wind that gear to redline as well as 2nd, 3rd, 4th.. etc/
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Dropping the clutch will cause a peel-out wont it? I dont think i would want to do that, i don't have money for new tires right now.
But maybe later
But maybe later
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It did for me today when I stalled on a hill when I let out the clutch too much without adding gas. On the retry, I held the car on the hill with the clutch for a second and then added a generous dose of gas and pretty much dropped the clutch as soon as i added the gas. Talk about 5-second peel-outjcprov21 wrote:Dropping the clutch will cause a peel-out wont it? I dont think i would want to do that, i do have money for new tires right now.
But maybe later
ClutchFork wrote:...So I started carrying a stick of firewood with me and that became my parking brake.
If you live in a northern climate, wait until winter to practice your hard launch technique. Once there's snow on the ground, you can experiment w/o stressing your drivetrain and clutch. The key is in migrating your skills from snow to concrete. As you get more comfortable, you can progress to surfaces that offer more and more traction. Start in a snow covered (unplowed) parking lot, move to a slushy street, and then on to a lightly snow-dusted street. Using this technique will reduce the rolling resistance that causes clutch wear. Normally, the tradeoff here is for tire wear, but since you're in snow, you needn't worry about that.