Re: Back in a Manual and It Feels SO GOOD!
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:53 am
Hey clutchrider, I saw you over at The Car Lounge posting. That's all.
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Welcome! Don't know I missed a previous post from you or what, but I feel like I would have remembered a TRD Tacoma... I work at a Toyota dealership and I very rarely see TRD's with a manual. Did you have to get it shipped in? Even the base Tacoma's don't show up with many manuals, though there are a few here and there.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:Since I'm new too, allow me to add...
I'm in a similar position to the OP, but for the most part have owned Toyota trucks my entire life. I recently owned an '05 Tacoma auto trans...Every vehicle I'd owned up to that point was a manual, but I was living in DC and dealing with heavy traffic, and decided auto was the way to go.
Fast forward a few years, and I decided it was time to trade the Tacoma in...for a new Tacoma...with a manual transimission! Oh, man did I miss driving a standard trans, and I tell you, it was like riding a bike getting back into it, no regrets at all!
Got a new 2012 Tacoma with the TRD sportshifter, and it is sweet! Hope to be able to contribute to some posts here...I've literally driven over 1,000,000 miles in manual transmission vehicles, and there really comes a point where it's just "driving" and not something you have to think about (for you newbs out there).
And believe me, I don't mean "newbs" in a bad way, I love that there are still new drivers out there learning to drive the way it was meant to be!
Wow...just rediscovered this site after a bit of a hiatus, and going through my older posts I realize I never answered this...Squint wrote:Welcome! Don't know I missed a previous post from you or what, but I feel like I would have remembered a TRD Tacoma... I work at a Toyota dealership and I very rarely see TRD's with a manual. Did you have to get it shipped in? Even the base Tacoma's don't show up with many manuals, though there are a few here and there.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:Since I'm new too, allow me to add...
I'm in a similar position to the OP, but for the most part have owned Toyota trucks my entire life. I recently owned an '05 Tacoma auto trans...Every vehicle I'd owned up to that point was a manual, but I was living in DC and dealing with heavy traffic, and decided auto was the way to go.
Fast forward a few years, and I decided it was time to trade the Tacoma in...for a new Tacoma...with a manual transimission! Oh, man did I miss driving a standard trans, and I tell you, it was like riding a bike getting back into it, no regrets at all!
Got a new 2012 Tacoma with the TRD sportshifter, and it is sweet! Hope to be able to contribute to some posts here...I've literally driven over 1,000,000 miles in manual transmission vehicles, and there really comes a point where it's just "driving" and not something you have to think about (for you newbs out there).
And believe me, I don't mean "newbs" in a bad way, I love that there are still new drivers out there learning to drive the way it was meant to be!
Interesting. Usually the reason they don't order manuals to have in stock in the lot is because they're afraid they'll end up sitting on it forever. If they can't keep one for more than a few days, you'd think they'd order more, and get a reputation as the place to go when you want 3 pedals.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:After the sale, the dealer told me that they get maybe 2 or 3 manual Tacomas in every year, outside of the few that they also have to get shipped in for customers upon request...and they rarely sit in the lot for more than a few days.
Yes and no, Moofasa. They might only sit on the lot a few days but that doesn't mean they want to order a ton because of the reason you mentioned. Also, at least at Toyota dealerships, they don't have full control over ordering. A large chunk is "suggested" based on what sales have happened over the last ____ period. I don't know fully how it works, but I know that Toyota looks at what that dealership and the region have done and bases shipped vehicles somewhat on that.theholycow wrote:Interesting. Usually the reason they don't order manuals to have in stock in the lot is because they're afraid they'll end up sitting on it forever. If they can't keep one for more than a few days, you'd think they'd order more, and get a reputation as the place to go when you want 3 pedals.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:After the sale, the dealer told me that they get maybe 2 or 3 manual Tacomas in every year, outside of the few that they also have to get shipped in for customers upon request...and they rarely sit in the lot for more than a few days.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean they should order 50, but they could keep ordering one more than last time until they finally get one sitting on the lot until the next delivery (on average).Squint wrote:Yes and no, Moofasa. They might only sit on the lot a few days but that doesn't mean they want to order a ton because of the reason you mentioned. Also, at least at Toyota dealerships, they don't have full control over ordering. A large chunk is "suggested" based on what sales have happened over the last ____ period. I don't know fully how it works, but I know that Toyota looks at what that dealership and the region have done and bases shipped vehicles somewhat on that.
I don't know exactly how much control either party has but I do know the manufacturer certainly has some say in it. For example, a dealership couldn't order 200 Camries and 200 Prii for a lot that holds 400 cars.theholycow wrote:That's a bummer that they have so little control over what they receive, since they still have to pay for them.
Seems to me, that's a bit like continuing to throw Hail Marys just because the last one worked out.theholycow wrote:Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean they should order 50, but they could keep ordering one more than last time until they finally get one sitting on the lot until the next delivery (on average).
I don't know football but I thought a Hail Mary is a crazy difficult pass that almost never works but you try it because you're out of options. Here we have something that's proven to work every time:Boston Fit wrote:Seems to me, that's a bit like continuing to throw Hail Marys just because the last one worked out.
They can't keep them on the lot, they have consistent demand for them, and they have plenty of other stuff on the lot that ends up not being sold; might as well feel out the demand. If they end up with one that sits for as long as the average slushbox then they know they've found the limit and can back off their ordering.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:After the sale, the dealer told me that they get maybe 2 or 3 manual Tacomas in every year, outside of the few that they also have to get shipped in for customers upon request...and they rarely sit in the lot for more than a few days.
Honestly, I think it has to do with a few things...theholycow wrote:I don't know football but I thought a Hail Mary is a crazy difficult pass that almost never works but you try it because you're out of options. Here we have something that's proven to work every time:Boston Fit wrote:Seems to me, that's a bit like continuing to throw Hail Marys just because the last one worked out.They can't keep them on the lot, they have consistent demand for them, and they have plenty of other stuff on the lot that ends up not being sold; might as well feel out the demand. If they end up with one that sits for as long as the average slushbox then they know they've found the limit and can back off their ordering.PaintDrinkingPete wrote:After the sale, the dealer told me that they get maybe 2 or 3 manual Tacomas in every year, outside of the few that they also have to get shipped in for customers upon request...and they rarely sit in the lot for more than a few days.