potownrob wrote: bk7794 wrote:
potownrob wrote:I haven't taken Chrysler seriously for 20 years now. Should not be surprised.
When did you get a vw?
i think i may have been mistaking teamwork for you for the past few months.
I really need to get an avatar... I associate people by avatars more then names!
To weigh in on the original thread though I've been following the Dodge Dart very closely since 2012 when it was first making its inception into the US. The first time I test drove one (and mind you both instances automatic) I was in a stripper model, base engine 2.0L (POS), and stripped of many features (like Uconnect). The experience was really lack luster after this build up... and I actually kind of held off my car choice a month thinking this thing was going to be a "contender". The only thing really truly going for it was the exterior look and the overall size- I really liked that it was inbetween compact and mid size realm and you could def get away having 4 people inside one of these. I thought the cloth seats were the worst quality I've ever felt in a modern day automobile- it literally felt like sand paper in certain areas and the smell was off putting. I really couldn't get out of the car any faster... and as soon as I did I bought what would be then my 3 year lease KIA.
My 2nd visit to the Dart was just last year and this time around I really had the bar set low remembering first time around. This time though I got the tigershark 2.4L in a middling trim with Uconnect and I honestly walked away from this car impressed. A lot of expert publications really slammed this thing into the ground claiming it was a total turd but I really could see a lot of people owning this car and being fairly satisfied with it. The 2.4L was adequate for the size and weight of the vehicle and I thought the transmission was fine... I was just coming from a 2.4L boat anchor in the KIA and it felt about the same. I thought the interior and gauges were a little too boy racer for me but they weren't crappy looking by any means- just loud. It was hardly sporting though and it didn't really feel 'european' in any way. I did notice that they upgraded the cloth seating surfaces and it went from being some of the worst to some of the best. I don't know how often you guys look at new cars and such but a lot of these brands really went to trash when it comes to cloth fabric and seating surfaces... I guess most people opt for leather now so there's less of a reason to care. I went onto some car club forums though and a crap load of people have issues with the 1.4L and transmission combo. It scared me away essentially but my first hand experience with the car wasn't bad.
Chrysler throwing in the towel is pretty bone headed to me but whatever. The Dart was a niche player and the 200 is in a sea of all-stars...