Ford 1.0 Ecoboost
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I've had a couple of turbo's and no issues. There are a few things to think about though:
1) Turbo engines generally need more frequent oil changes. Especially true on the Subies, because if your oils starts to sludge up it will block the filters in the turbo oil supply lines' banjo fittings.
2) Shutting your engine off immediately after a hard run can cause heat to build up in the turbo, which can shorten its life, so they say. In reality that seems to no longer be a real problem, but it certainly was on the early Chryco attempts.
3) Turbo failure at high speed can shatter the internals, casting bits o' metal into your intakes, trashing your engine. Hence the cost of turbo failure can be much higher than the parts cost alone. That being said, an astute ear can almost always detect the change of pitch associated with impending doom.
4) You always pay to play.
Bottom line, though, I really wouldn't be without one!
1) Turbo engines generally need more frequent oil changes. Especially true on the Subies, because if your oils starts to sludge up it will block the filters in the turbo oil supply lines' banjo fittings.
2) Shutting your engine off immediately after a hard run can cause heat to build up in the turbo, which can shorten its life, so they say. In reality that seems to no longer be a real problem, but it certainly was on the early Chryco attempts.
3) Turbo failure at high speed can shatter the internals, casting bits o' metal into your intakes, trashing your engine. Hence the cost of turbo failure can be much higher than the parts cost alone. That being said, an astute ear can almost always detect the change of pitch associated with impending doom.
4) You always pay to play.
Bottom line, though, I really wouldn't be without one!
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Turbos are here to stay, they're not going anywhere. I don't get all these reliablity concerns, Turbos might eventually wear out or fail just like any other part on a naturally aspirated engine.
The only downsides to a turbo engine is the throttle response and turbo lag. Modern cars are getting better and better in dealing with this. I suppose the other downside is the exhaust note but I suspect this has more to do with engine downsizing than it does with the actual turbo being in the exhaust flow path.
The only downsides to a turbo engine is the throttle response and turbo lag. Modern cars are getting better and better in dealing with this. I suppose the other downside is the exhaust note but I suspect this has more to do with engine downsizing than it does with the actual turbo being in the exhaust flow path.
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I knowtheholycow wrote:You currently drive a car that's 11 years old. Unless you're planning to replace it soon, you might want to give a little more credence to that issue.six wrote:
I guess I come from a different mindset. I don't look at cars that way, thinking about years, possibly a decade, into the future of potential maintenance costs.
But I knew that going in, since I only bought the car a few years ago. What I didn't do is get this car over another car because this one seemed to be cheaper to maintain or vise versa. Maintenance is a necessity, but its potential costs and other related maintenance issues are very low on my list of selection/comparison criteria.
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Chrysler was prolly the first OEM to use water-cooled turbots.
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Manual Makes Sense for 1.0L Focus, Ford Says
I guess that means someone actually proof-read the thing.
http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-technolog ... -ford-says
I guess that means someone actually proof-read the thing.
http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-technolog ... -ford-says
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My read, based on what I've listened to in the past, is that a manual is very necessary to squeeze as much power out of a relatively underpowered engine. The Focus is already pretty heavy and motivating it with 123hp could prove challenging with an automatic (at least by American standards.) I personally never feel a lack of power out of the NA 2.0, but not sure about the 1.0EB.
Would the difference be in that overboost feature? I wonder if it would be worth test driving when the time comes to shit or get off the pot as it relates to my car. The mileage is already good in mine.
Would the difference be in that overboost feature? I wonder if it would be worth test driving when the time comes to shit or get off the pot as it relates to my car. The mileage is already good in mine.
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I'm stinkin' that if there are issues with the acceptance of the dual-clutch transmission, they would be exacerbated with a 1-Liter 3-cylinder.
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I have slightly over 180,400 miles on my car. Original turbo. No shaft play. No problems. Turbos are far more reliable as a technology than a lot of the electronic variable valve timing stuff that exists now.
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All work and no shaft play makes Tony very, very.... something.
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Wash your hands!AHTOXA wrote:All work and no shaft play makes Tony very, very.... something.
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Ford's 3-cylinder EcoBoost engine off to fast start
In just a few short months, Ford Motor Co.’s 1-liter, three-cylinder EcoBoost engine is beating the automaker’s initial U.S. expectations despite limited offering.
The tiny turbo engine — the first of many three-cylinders that automakers will offer in the U.S. market — is seen by many as a litmus test for future small gasoline engines.
The percentage of Fiesta car buyers who choose the optional 1-liter is 4-8 percent, depending on the month. The 1-liter EcoBoost has only been available since late December, and is an option only with the Fiesta’s SE trim. The engine is currently paired with a manual transmission; stick shifts make up only a small percentage of new car sales here in the U.S.
“It’s always odd with the consumer reception and three-cylinders. But today’s three-cylinder is not your dad’s three-cylinder,” said Jesse Toprak, chief analyst at Cars.com, singling out the dog of an engine in the Geo Metro in the 1990s. “These have new technologies and you can actually get decent performance. There are massive improvements.”
Troy-based market researcher LMC Automotive estimates global three-cylinder engine production will nearly double from the current pace to 9.8 million.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... z31GWZUfiY
In just a few short months, Ford Motor Co.’s 1-liter, three-cylinder EcoBoost engine is beating the automaker’s initial U.S. expectations despite limited offering.
The tiny turbo engine — the first of many three-cylinders that automakers will offer in the U.S. market — is seen by many as a litmus test for future small gasoline engines.
The percentage of Fiesta car buyers who choose the optional 1-liter is 4-8 percent, depending on the month. The 1-liter EcoBoost has only been available since late December, and is an option only with the Fiesta’s SE trim. The engine is currently paired with a manual transmission; stick shifts make up only a small percentage of new car sales here in the U.S.
“It’s always odd with the consumer reception and three-cylinders. But today’s three-cylinder is not your dad’s three-cylinder,” said Jesse Toprak, chief analyst at Cars.com, singling out the dog of an engine in the Geo Metro in the 1990s. “These have new technologies and you can actually get decent performance. There are massive improvements.”
Troy-based market researcher LMC Automotive estimates global three-cylinder engine production will nearly double from the current pace to 9.8 million.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... z31GWZUfiY
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This is my preferred three cylinder engine.
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Rope-Pusher wrote:Ford's 3-cylinder EcoBoost engin....
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2014 ... z31GWZUfiY
Yeah I went to a Ford dealer and they actually sold all their 3 cylinder engines. I definitely have interest in driving one.
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Not for the sake of arguing, but I have never heard of VVT failures.watkins wrote:I have slightly over 180,400 miles on my car. Original turbo. No shaft play. No problems. Turbos are far more reliable as a technology than a lot of the electronic variable valve timing stuff that exists now.
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Cam phasers on the 3.6L Pentastar crap out semi-regularly. Not a big deal as its just a three-screw actuator on the front of the valve cover, but it does present an issue.